I’ve been thinking a lot about NPs and the power of all that extraverted intuition and that has led me to seek a better understand the introvered judging functions that go with it: Ti and Fi.
I did an MBTI session with a female INTP friend yesterday and in preparing for our meeting I went back and had a look at what Jung has to say about our introverted judging functions and saw how very similar they are, especially in their drive for independence and authenticity. It made me better understand how INTPs and ENTPs really have a lot in common with INFPs and ENFPs and all have the possibility to really connect with each other.
As I see it, introverted thinking (Ti) is original, creative, theoretical, and intense. It is not influenced by the judgement of others, but relies on the subjective thought process of the person for its guidance.
So here’s what Jung says……
Introverted thinking is primarily oriented by the subjective factor. At the very least the subjective factor expresses itself as a feeling of guidance which ultimately determines judgement.
External factors are not the aim and origin of thinking, though the introvert would often like to make his thinking appear so. It begins with the subject and leads back to the subject, far though it may range into the realm of actual reality.
It formulates questions and creates theories, it opens up new prospects and insights, but with regard to facts its attitude is one of reserve. They are all very well as illustrative examples, but they must not be allowed to predominate. Facts are collected as evidence for a theory, never for their own sake …. Facts are of secondary importance for this kind of thinking; what seems to it of paramount importance is the development and presentation of the subjective idea, of the initial symbolic image hovering darkly before the mind’s eye. Its aim is never an intellectual reconstruction of the concrete fact, but a shaping of that dark image into a luminous idea. It wants to reach reality, to see how the external fact will fit into and fill the framework of the idea, and the creative power of this thinking shows itself when it actually creates an idea which, though not inherent in the concrete fact, is yet the most suitable abstract expression of it. Its task is completed when the idea it has fashioned seems to emerge so inevitably from the external facts that they actually prove its validity. (628)
… introverted thinking [like introverted feeling] shows a dangerous tendency to force the facts into the shape of its image, or to ignore them altogether in order to give fantasy free play. In that event it will be impossible for the finished product—the idea—to repudiate its derivation from the dim archaic image. It will have a mythological streak which one is apt to interpret as “originality” or, in more pronounced cases, as mere whimsicality, since its archaic character is not immediately apparent to specialists unfamiliar with mythological motifs (629).
It creates theories for their own sake, apparently with an eye to real or at least possible facts, but always with a distinct tendency to slip over from the world of ideas into mere imagery. Accordingly, visions of numerous possibilities appear on the scene, but none of them ever becomes a reality, until finally images are produced which no longer express anything externally real, being mere symbols if the ineffable and unknowable.
The more consciousness is impelled by the thinking function to confine itself within the smallest and emptiest circle—which seems, however, to contain, all the riches of the gods—the more the unconscious fantasies will be enriched by a multitude of archaic contents, a veritable “pandemonium” of irrational and magical figures, which physiognomy will accord with the nature of the function that will supersede the thinking function as the vehicle of life (630).
[The introverted thinking type] is strongly influenced by ideas, though his ideas have their origin not in the objective data but in his subjective foundation …. Intensity is his aim … (633).
C. G. Jung, Psychological Types, a rev. by R. F. C. Hull of the trans. by H. G. Baynes, Bollingen Series XX (Princeton: University Press, 1971). Numbers refer to the paragraphs of this ed.
See my next post for introverted feeling (Fi).
I am not sure how personality type would change the effect. I think there would be a lot of other factors to take into account such as general wellbeing (biochemical levels would differ), subtype of the plant and if you are taking any medications/other drugs/alcohol/caffeine.
I haven’t tried it that many times and was cautious with the amount, but I’m more in the moment and my senses are elevated. Food tastes awesome and I’m less analytical.
Cognitive Function Loops
“Loops” are when your first and third functions (always both either introverted or extroverted) start playing off one another, without accessing your second and fourth functions. This can either be an asset (if your third function is a productive function) or a liability (if your third function is an emotional / indecisive function). When your functions forget to touch base with one another, they are imbalanced – people or characters “in a loop” are behaving very differently from their usual functions.
IXTJs in a loop become irrational, self-centered, insecure, and highly emotional, thwarting their plans to pursue an irrational emotional impulse (Fi).
IXFJs in a loop rely on internal decision making and personal rationality, forgetting to consult how this impacts others in the process (Ti).
INXPs forget to think up new ideas and solutions and get stuck in old behavior patterns or revisiting old material (Si).
IXSPs are less quick to act or may not act at all, as they get caught up in internal strategizing / envisioning the future (Ni).
ENXJs become highly motivated but also reckless in their behavior, abandoning their usual strategies for quick solutions and behavior oriented toward sensory pleasures (Se).
ESXJs get stuck in a rut of over-ideas and the inability to narrow down those concepts to one solution (Ne).
EXTPs develop visible emotions and insecurities about how others feel about them and the impersonal impact of their actions (Fe).
EXFPs launch into “take charge” mode by turning off their emotions and relying on factual information and quick problem solving (Te).
Since people in a loop aren’t consulting functions of the opposing stack, they are thrown off balance and lack their usual behavior patterns. To get out of a loop, you must activate your missing second function.
If it is something the INTP isn’t interested in, then yes I can see that happening. Although that probably wouldn’t happen if an INTP was in their element.
raise your hand if you have so many ideas that you’re not talented enough for
That is very common among a lot of NPs. Maybe rather than spending the rest of your life in 1 field of study, spend your life following your curiosity. Try to find a job where you can either A. allows variety or B. allows plenty of vacation/ off-time to spend with your passions.
Try starting your own business/ source of income on the side. If you stick with it over time while still getting paid elsewhere, you could potentially get it big enough to do it full time. Then you could expand that business based on whatever you feel like learning/ doing.
Be friendly. Be patient. Figure out shared interests. Expect to start as friends, don’t try anything without having real conversations first. Be very clear on your intentions/ how you feel, since relationships aren’t exactly an area we feel confident in. She probably won’t be sure about the nature of the relationship unless it is established as being romantic. Also, she may not express her feelings easily, so don’t assume she doesn’t like you if she isn’t showing obvious signs of interest.
From a functional standpoint, I think ISFJs are one of the types that should be the most compatible with INTPs. I think if there are common interests, then it could be a great match.
I think any two types can make good friends or be romantically compatible.
I think that is a manifestation of inferior Fe/ mild social anxiety. I can be oblivious with romantic situations. I occasionally get the sense someone likes me, but I can’t help but think it is wishful thinking. It could just as easily be general friendliness, since some people have flirtatious personalities.
I wouldn’t try to interfere with the relationship. Stay friendly with him, but don’t try to do anything else unless he breaks up with the girl. Don’t force things too much.
Just be yourself, wait until circumstances are better and then do what feels natural to you.
Also, be open to other romantic possibilities as well.